sooznd wrote:
more likely this particular dealer is making a much bigger profit margin by selling the Buddy over the Vinos, Zumas & C3's LOL

I guess this is true since he does not sell the small Yamaha scoots anymore.

I have nothing bad to say about these scoots ...... I may have even bought one if the dealer still sold them

yeah_buddy wrote:Hi all .... Im new here ...so this probably wont go over well.

I am a Buddy 50 owner. I looked at a few scoots metro,vino, C3 & some TGB stuff ... thought they were all nice scoots (TGB lower then the others). I bought my Buddy at the Yamaha dealer .... The Yamaha dealer quit carrying the Yamaha scoots, except for the maxi scoots like the Morphis, because they thought they were over priced and they said it seemed like Yamaha was more concerned with making a sale ... and Yamaha was more focused on the bigger $ bikes. ....This is what the Yamaha dealer told me.
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more likely this particular dealer is making a much bigger profit margin by selling the Buddy over the Vinos, Zumas & C3's LOL

Ever notice whenever the subject of Genuine comes up , a new member appears, usually with a username related to the line, posts a pro-Genuine post or two , then disappears forever ?

Weird.

Thanx..... my Bud was a 07 bought in Aug of 07.

I like the vintage look scoots so the buddy , metro , and Vino all really caught my eye. I like ,what I would call, the wheel skirt look . The 2 tone Metro makes that look stand out.

sooooo ..... of course the the vintage look Vespas and Stella are also one of my dreams.

The Ruckas is also a eye catcher .... kind of odd .... but interesting

Hey, no worries - everybody's welcome here.

Hm, bought it at MSRP, no set up fee? That's cool. Was it an older model?

Interesting that the Yamaha dealer said that. We hear that about a lot of dealers (only caring about the bigger bikes) but not often about the company.

Hi all .... Im new here ...so this probably wont go over well.

I am a Buddy 50 owner. I looked at a few scoots metro,vino, C3 & some TGB stuff ... thought they were all nice scoots (TGB lower then the others). I bought my Buddy at the Yamaha dealer .... The Yamaha dealer quit carrying the Yamaha scoots, except for the maxi scoots like the Morphis, because they thought they were over priced and they said it seemed like Yamaha was more concerned with making a sale ... and Yamaha was more focused on the bigger $ bikes. ....This is what the Yamaha dealer told me.

I bought mine at MSRP price , no set up/shipping fee , derestricted free , and 10% off anything for a year.

The Zuma might be easier to find parts for, but I haven't seen a mod for the fugly looks yet. The Buddy has a certain mojo that the Zuma doesn't have. It's a shame about parts though....I remember Jeremy mentioning similar issues when he made friends with that deer a while back.

Wow, a three-scoot buy-in? Heck *I* could be a Genuine dealer, if that's all it takes. Then I wouldn't worry about the microfiche, I'd be fine with a binder.

cortadito wrote:I sure hope that these are more growing pains than signs of a company that might not be around for long......

Man, I am with you. I was looking forward to selling the line, because they have some nice offerings in areas that Honda has neglected badly...... and I get bikes at dealer cost !

We take a look at them every year or so , and I hope they get it together in '08 .

Hey Bustin' - Glad you didn't take my post as antagonistic. I definitely see your points, and you obviously have much more of an inside view than I do without question.

I sure hope that these are more growing pains than signs of a company that might not be around for long...

Thanks for the reply

Good post Cortadito . As I stated above , I think the Genuines are good little scoots, with nice styling and impressive performance , as well as decent build quality. I would probably own a Buddy 125 , but for the issues on support.

I'm not anti-Genuine , per-se, but when people start comparing Genuine to Honda or Yamaha , I am compelled to point out some glaring shortcomings in the line , most of which aren't apparent in the showroom. I am in a position to see these differences , and they are substantial.

I could be wrong about Genuine's long term business plan , but the fact that they are not making the commitment to warehouse more parts in the U.S. , with a dealer accessable online stock check system, is telling. The fact that they haven't paid Bell & Howell to convert their sad little 3 ring binders to a usable parts microfiche for their dealers is telling . The fact that they will hand out dealership agreements with a three scoot buy-in and a handshake is TELLING . It's not like they just got started, they have had years to get these things rolling.

Could be cash-flow issues, sure.... but I think it's a short term , hit-and-run strategy designed to show big profits and big "growth" , i.e. " We added 17 new dealers just last year !!! " Meanwhile , the investments needed to support the product long-term are being swept under the rug , instead of toning down that quarterly P&L statement. I don't know if they are gearing up for an IPO , or the owner(s) are setting up a profitable sell out, or they are just struggling to make payroll now, with the intent to invest in the infrastructure later. I dunno. Regardless, things aren't happening that need to happen real soon, if the line is going to be around in five or ten years.

That's why I think Genuine owners should stock up on spare parts now.