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Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby fishcutter44 on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:29 pm

Hi all,
I've been a member here for years; mostly a lurker but have found lots of good info here.
Here's the story:
I sold my 2005 Metro to a good friend who had wanted it for years. Bought a 2016 Kymco Like 200i with low miles from craigslist, thinking that my wife would ride it also as it's automatic like the Met.
She wasn't comfortable with the Kymco, a little too big for her. So I bought a 2017 Met two weeks ago so we both can ride, decided to keep the Kymco (cause it's cheap to insure and maintain and I like it)

Thoughts on the 2005 Met vs. the 2017 model:
Both very well-engineered machines
Build quality is excellent (of course, it's a Honda!)
Aesthetically, I like both equally, but wish the newer scoots had more color choices
New engine design is very quiet, will give a report on performance after the 1st oil change
Legshield storage is not as good as the front basket on the 2005
Brakes are still drum type but seem much better
I like the headlight on the handlebar instead of the leg shield
Ignition key assembly seems much more robust, with a theft control device that's easy to use

If anyone else here has one of the newest generation Mets, I'd be glad to hear your opinion!
IMHO, I think this is one of the most well-engineered 49cc scoots out there, top speed be damned!
Ride safe and enjoy,
Kurt
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby GizmoGal on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:55 pm

Welcome back! I enjoyed your overview of 2005 vs 2017 Mets. I'm hugely surprised that you skipped the change from pesky carburetor to fuel injection as a distinct advantage. I'll take cramped front storage as an easy give-up never to have to worry about unreliable, balky starting. I gave up my 2005 Met1 in 2010 just to own a Honda scooter with fuel injection, buying my Elite 110 then, and never looked back.
Agree that it's definitely a bummer that they kept drum brakes on the thing.

Well, sounds like great riding times ahead for you both. Post a photo of the new toy, or both bikes.

Have fun and ride safe.
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby fishcutter44 on Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:46 pm

Yes Gizmogal,
I neglected to mention the fuel injection is a huge improvement over the carb.
Now 37mph top speed with my 200 lb freight on it; we'll see what happens once the engine is run in.
Hoping for 40?
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby 2Wheels4Ever on Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:54 pm

Fish,

What is your opinion of the Kymco? I've actually gone back and forth about the Like 200 for a couple of years. I have an '02 Met II that is fun as all get out to ride but is just slow. I'll upgrade in the not-to-distant future. I love the aesthetics of the Mets, particularly the old generation ones, but they aren't speed demons. I'd like to know your thoughts since you have real-time experience with the Kymco.

Thanks!!!
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby fishcutter44 on Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:05 pm

Hi 2W4,
Regarding the Kymco 200i, I looked around for reviews and saw nothing negative, but the clincher for me was when a very reputable local dealer picked up Kymco a few years ago in addition to their line of MC's including BMW, Honda, KTM, Yamaha and a few others. They have been around for a long time and I have had nothing but good experience with them as far as purchases/parts/service work.
Didn't buy my 2016 Kymco 200i from them, but from a seller on craigslist. Here's my opinion
Build quality is very good, seems like a solid scooter; the plastics are not flimsy and the fit and finish is tight.
Top speed is around 55-60 here at sea level on flats, with me around 200lbs holding it back
Owners manual fell apart when I opened it, but has all needed info
Starts immediately, no bogging (FI)
CC is 163, not 200
I removed the side stand because it seemed at the wrong angle and too small; also the P/O had the scoot fall in his driveway this way
All in all, I think this scoot is a good value, can be found used at a very good price.
One consideration would be if you have a dealer near you. Parts are readily available, but I like to have a dealer close who can do any warranty work
Ride safe!
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby 2Wheels4Ever on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:20 pm

Sounds like a pretty solid scooter. I don't think I've ever heard a negative but it's good to have confirmation from someone with personal experience. I have a dealer about 75 miles from me, as a matter of fact, the same dealer I bought my Met from years ago. It's a little further than I'd like to go but not a show stopper. How is the gas mileage? Have you ridden 2-up with the Mrs.? Just curious, I don't plan to ride with mine very often, but may in a pinch.

Thanks for the info. I really appreciate your time!

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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby fishcutter44 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:09 pm

Hey Charles,
I haven't ridden two up yet, but am sure the scoot is capable of hauling two people. I think the mileage is around 75-80 mpg. The tank is fairly small, and I only ever top it up when it gets to around half.
One minor flaw I forgot to mention was the headlight has some glare from the top which is very noticeable and distracting at night. Planning to make a small visor to put on it; it's a minor thing but was also mentioned by other owners on the kymco forum. Despite being produced in mainland China, the overall quality is very good, must be some very good QC from the Taiwanese overseeing things. You might be able to find one used at a good price; there were several near me with less than 800 miles for around $1500.
Cheers,
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby 2Wheels4Ever on Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:02 pm

Thanks for the info, Kurt. I've seen a couple of lightly used ones on Craigslist over the last year or so. I guess I'm going to have to start looking a little more closely and find one. Sounds like it'll be a fine upgrade to the Met.

Safe riding!

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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby hippieelmo on Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:09 am

Just bought a brand new White 2017 Metro. Back in the scooter ring now since I sold my 14 Metro. Was able to find a 17 that has been setting on the showroom floor since 12/2016; I wonder if Honda is making any 2018 Metro's or is there a lot of unsold 2017's?

I know one thing is that the build quality from the 14 Metro; made In China version. The 2017 is made in Japan which is higher quality.

Will post a pic and my review between the two (2014/2017) later.
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby hippieelmo on Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:48 pm

Finally got a picture of it....
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby birdmove on Sat May 12, 2018 6:46 pm

About ten years ago, I bought my wife an early model Metro. It was a great little scooter. Since you have owned both, can you tell me if the new model is any roomier? I"m about 5'9". The early model seems like I had to be careful or my knees might interfere with the handlebars.
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby GizmoGal on Sat May 12, 2018 7:21 pm

They are the same size now as they were 10 or more years ago. Metropolitans are small scooters. The specs for new models are on the Honda web page.

http://powersports.honda.com/2017/metro ... tions.aspx
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby fishcutter44 on Mon May 14, 2018 8:13 pm

Hi bird,
Seems to me the size/ergonomics are much the same between the older and new Metros. At 6' , I look like a circus bear riding a tricycle on this scoot, but don't care. Yes knee tucking in tight turns is needed. The new Met , IMHO, is very well put together and sounds different than the 2005. Seems like the variator is different and the scoot is running higher rpm's, yet top speed is around the same.
Hippieelmo, can you please give a comparison of your scoots? I was always curious about the Mets between model changes,
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby GizmoGal on Tue May 15, 2018 6:55 am

It will need Hippieelmo to compare the two recent Met models he's owned and ridden.

But just for general awareness, the biggest difference between older Mets, say before 2009 and newer Mets is that the carburetor is gone and the Met now has fuel injection. Truly reliable starting in all weather, cold, damp, hot, whatever. The thing will start. Still needs the careful oil change maintenance. Some recent years have been speedier than others because, for a while, Honda was giving fuel injection but substituting air cooling for water cooling. Maybe that was the Chinese build years? Mets are back to water cooled engines, kept the FI, and more recent Mets do go faster, but not much.

To the best of my research results, there is no 2018 Honda Met. Well, maybe none in America. I can't account for overseas. Plenty of 2017s to buy, if there is a market out there.
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Re: Old Member Returning/2017 Met

Postby hippieelmo on Tue May 15, 2018 4:30 pm

Your right! China built Met has fuel injection but is air cooled. That is the reason I sold my China built Met as it was air cooled. Love the fuel injection Mets as they start in any weather unlike the carb versions. The Japan built Mets are made a lot better then the China built ones; better fit and finish.

For me the China made Met was a little slower then my "17; but where I live there is no need for speed.
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